Let me see. Beyond that, thanks for your comments. My white, middle-class son has 4.6gpa, 35 ACT, 15AP’s (4-5’s) and demonstrates incredible depth/passion on his college app. Ironically, even though I was independent, I earned too much money to qualify for financial aid, so I paid for my education entirely myself. The African American kids were at the very bottom of the scores but they got in. Being of mixed race, I think both sides need to stop complaining and accept life isn’t always fair. Higher education has value if it leads to a job on the other side. Ding letters started rolling in first from UChicago, then UVA and waitlisted at Michigan. WHY BECAUSE IM WHITE, yes I’m a white boy from Brooklyn, NY. So why would it be taught in US history? Can’t wait for the article about corporate america hating old people. It is not true that your families ability to attend any of these prestigious colleges has been deminished by any of the above. he had to set his site some where else and the scholarship money it out there, you just have to go and find it. They didn’t explicitly say that must change, but highlighting the contribution of women and non-white psychologists in the lecture apparently wasn’t enough. He often stayed up until 1 am studying to get this . Now some more bad news. I see this was in 2016. In order to comfortably raise a family in an expensive coastal city like San Francisco or New York, you've got to make at least $300,000 a year. My son has 99.119 GPA (his school doesn’t do grade point GPA) and he made a 33 on the ACT and a 1520 on the SAT. Each person will see his/her life journey as more arduous and therefore more deserving than another’s. White guys = bad…that’s your thesis? I have travelled to 75 countries. and he was Hispanic (or Black, or American Indian, or from a poor country) and I had no money, he would be getting ready to enroll into Duke. I decided to try the company from out of state, because I am thinking, I’ll be running things myself over here. We are financially able to pay for her college, however being responsible parents we have put the responsibilities of half of her college costs on her. Please stop with this “white male privilege” crap. Sure, loans can make up the difference. Not what clothing we wore, or how many cars you drove or that you even had a computer. Every year, reporters run a story on the “Most Expensive College in America”: Harvey Mudd in California now costs nearly $80,000 and, soon enough, some school is going to break $100,000. Then single mothers have to raise their kids well getting an education and working a full-time job. I’m sorry I have to respectfully disagree with anybody who says acceptance has to do with skin color. I thought all of you Trump-loving conservatives hated college and over-educated elites. He’ll be fine, no doubt. (this coming for a white male so I am immediately discredited to even have an opinion). Academic , all american 2 years . This is the most truest thing I think I’ve ever read online!!! Furthermore, continue declining. I advocate for all my students, despite their race and gender, and I focus mainly on young people whose parents are not so well off. We met with the high school counselor at the beginning of the year and asked all the right questions, all scholarship related. Every nationality went through the same thing! But white girl, private school no trauma. Just call them “diversity grants” and be truthful about it. Considering how much would free college cost taxpayers can make some people feel anxious. I got my financial money from 4 years of military service. So were two of his fellow classmates. YOU ALL HAVE IT SO HARD. Why do white students get screwed over because they are White? Being poor is now a bad decision? Not to mention that he lettered in 5 sports, speaks fluently two other languages, plays saxophone, attended MUN in Haag 3 years in a row and much more. (The HR Famous Podcast) - Fistful of Talent, Pingback: Why is identity politics incompatible with a civic society? When I was in public high school, I was also in an arts magnent school for music that added to my extra-circulars. Honestly I don’t think it’s so much color as say other factors. Found inside... the upper middle class didn't have to go to college—she could get married. ... she was a widow and couldn't afford to send her daughter off to college. Applications will have no names, no addresses or any other information giving any clues to color, creed, or socioeconomic background. Listen, I live in the NE – Newark NJ gets more public school funding than any other district and it still puts out the lowest literacy rates. Hard work keeps you there. The hard working white has the priviledge of paying most taxes to support you and other illiterate baby mommas out there. Grades are simply not that important in comparison to other factors. There is no fairness to it. ADVERTISEMENT Catholic schools, in particular, parochial Catholic schools that were an extension of a local parish and subsidized for parishioners, were created for middle and working-class kids. Colleges don’t want to lose you after you’ve already come that close to deciding to attend. I AM sorry that you’re so blinded by your own ignorance, please don’t present poorly formed arguments as facts. One strategy for middle-class applicants is to identify those schools that are making efforts to recruit less-wealthy students and see what assistance might be available. woodwork every 2 years to strong arm for support and it has nothing to do with improving society as a whole – be it education or any other thing they pretend to care about. I can tell you what got my kid into Duke. Is it coincidence that this group is most likely to commit suicide? I worked at a feed mill and had natural salt burn my eyes while working in 145 degree silos. I do not see their color, only their predicament and abilities. If you want to make a change, get rid of your tv, encourage others to do the same and don’t give ratings. Seeing this myself. THAT’S MY REALITY. I tried to say throughout the post, in no way do I understand the stereotypes faced by minorities in America. Does meritocracy not count when white people win? I can’t complain or whine about that. You’re reading a comment written by a 25 year old white man who grew up in a meth infested trailer park, went to jail over a dozen times, is a felon, out of work, no available scholarships, no government assistance, etc.. Lol. However, as someone said above, your son’s scores/grades weren’t quite good enough to expect to get into those schools. Yeah the kid’s test scores are bad. The British propaganda machine disguised the genocide as the potato famine. We can discuss the black applicants that don’t even get the opportunities to apply for certain jobs because rich daddies already set it up behind the scenes but the truth is that the white male and female applicants also lose in this situation. College only sometimes gets your foot in the door. I invited David Montesano, one of my favorite independent college counselors, to write this guest post after I heard him talk about the challenges that middle-class families face in paying for college. And your not suppose to complain . With eight AP courses, Recipiant of the Rensselaer Metal for excellence in the math and sciences, 1st chair All County trombone player and section leader 4 years, , captain of his travel hockey team, and nearly fluent in French after 4 yrs of classroom instruction at the highest level. A lot of them are hoping to get their kids in on an athletic scholarship. Unfortunately, I found this out AFTER the fact! So hearing that argument I would have to ask, do they want equality or revenge? All three kids went to state university tuition free, with living expenses!!! Describes how the "Financial Fit" program can help families determine how much college will really cost beyond the sticker price and factor cost into the college search, and explains how to maximize financial aid benefits. Given the reality that colleges won’t be lowering their costs anytime soon, today’s middle-class students have to get creative about attending a top school without breaking the bank. All that isn’t good enough for NCSU? He told my manager that he wanted me on the new job with in the week and told me to come see him if the manager didn’t do it . We feel they need to shoulder some of that cost to appreciate what it is they’re investing in. If we were to talk about slaves throughout history, over half the world has ancestors that have been enslaved and the majority of those have been White so please spare me your sob story about 300 years ago. The Year in Housing: The Middle Class Can't Afford to Live in Cities Anymore Cities are increasingly populated by lower-income people in subsidized housing … Or are you just simply deciding that since he’s white, then his denial could not possibly be related to his race or sex? Basically, he falls into this no-man’s land of what colleges and universities don’t want these days. west. There are other ways to think about the matter. Over the past few decades, more and more parents are putting themselves on the hook. If you go to an out-of-state school, any difference will be made up by you. It’s not because selective institutions can’t afford to help low-income students, the Georgetown study said. What middle-class parents need is to understand how much college costs, how much students are likely to earn post-graduation, and whether it will pay off. I will pray for your son to find peace and find his perfect place. My son applied for 14 scholarships. That’s all the difference. Availability of student loans, and willingness of students (and their parents) to commit to those loans, allowed these institutions to increase tuition, room and board, and fees at percentages far greater than the consumer price index. This is the return to the top marginal income tax rate under George W. Bush. Wake up and get real. We only qualified for $3,000.00 in financial aid. He’s brilliant, pulls well above the 4.0 gpa, but he already knows that Mom & Dad aren’t paying for college beyond the 529’s and he is resolving that he will just go to local college and can worry about a more “elite” experience upon pursuing a graduate degree. As a college grad who has made no use of his prestigious honors degree from a top 10 school… I can tell you there is more honor in learning how to be self educated and a self starter than there is in an honors degree. I’m not going to say that I know how you feel, because I’m not a parent. It’s going to be a while. Those who go on to Graduate Degrees have better shots at getting financial help after they’ve lived on their own and proven themselves in undergrad programs or through an employer in certain fields. 99th percentile on SAT. Believe that anything we do now a days should be on merrit alone. Why are parents expected to contribute? In terms of financial aid, BC and Duke aren’t tuition driven schools; their endowments cover whatever they need. 30+ Examples of Middle-to-Upper Class Privileges Reply Share Following is a list of middle-to-upper class privileges. Well, for one, the *Northeast* is one of the most lilly white parts of the country. My daughters college costs alone are going to cost us over $300,000 and I am an x-ray tech and my husband is a high school teacher. That’s just America with its twisted priorities. The financial aid office could not assist me with the first one, but the second one they told me I did not qualify for any of the programs, other than a Pell Grant. – Progressive Patriotism UK. I also really liked the prospects of USC, UCLA or Columbia. So throw away any idea of having a dream school. Instead, they are all about yearbook and newspaper, and debate. here is an update . My white husband jokes white Christian males are the only group you can still discriminate against. She feels different points of view and different cultures are all part of the learning process. Hit him in the comments and tell me how out of touch I am, then remember this is all about a 17-year-old boy with a dream. After the tour of my son’s top wish list school he said, “Mom, I don’t feel like they even want me to apply.” His racially diverse, economically challenged best friend tours the same school the following week and is welcomed with open arms. J. Due to income and savings I will be exp cited to pay tuition in 60k range for his school choice so I decided to pick a weekend job and a part time job to help make it through the 1st year. We have a demented nursing home hospice case for a president. More facts — see partial breakdown from from https://www.tech-gate.org/usa/2021/04/09/princeton-is-selecting-fewer-white-students-every-year, of the students offered admission by six of the eight Ivy League schools (all Ivies except Yale and Columbia). For instance, if I say cheating is wrong and another person says it isn’t. I hope you’ll take this opportunity, Trinity, to reflect on and challenge your own systemically-instilled dogmatic beliefs on sex and race. Get together and stop the toxicity. Boston College has an acceptance rate of 29%. I pray every day for a big scholarship and cry every night with worry and fear. Given that these public flagships and elite private schools are institutions of higher learning and academics, it seems twisted that many of the smartest kids pay full price despite having worked their asses off on academics in high school. Lived in a Italian area of New Jersey, I was told that this side of the tracks was this that side was that and over there was people that had money. You give us all hope. He got waitlisted at Northwestern, Emory, Washu, and DArtmouth and rejected at Duke, Harvard, CMU, and USC. By the time a student is a junior in high school they have been tested and retested, graded and evaluated so many times that it is obvious to anyone being intellectually honest, what their academic reach happens to be. He too is involved in our community, is a straight A student earned in AP classes, and works his ass off. Second, being a vegetarian is an expensive luxury. I love the fact that some underprivileged kids are given a chance. My son also comes from a white middle class family. By not allowing others to define your race as a victim that can’t get an ID or a job. Found inside – Page 133Justice, Politics, and College Admissions Robert K. Fullinwider, ... or Duke or Amherst are middle- or upper - middle class and can afford to pay Princeton ... And I did not get offer a grant or scholarship. Dealing with the same. But 31 on the ACT is so far from competitive that I fear you are in fantasy land. Sadly we do not have this. My child received their first merit award, a $2500 research grant finally as an upperclassman in college. I am a while male, but I can personally say this is really nothing new. They're not wealthy enough to treat the cost of tuition as an afterthought. My last thought. THIS IS FACT. I am about to head off to college next year and I have read nothing in joe’s statement that was prejudice. From what I understand, white girls with excellent stats are currently the top demographic applying to the tier 1 schools. Don’t tell me about what happened 300 years ago. Online college with in-person lab, may very well prove to be the best education as students are actually “there” only to learn. Over the years the corporate industrial complex has invaded the home security industry, as well as many other industries that were once rules by small business and family owned businesses and because of that opportunities like this do not exist for White Males or anyone else. Legacies and athletic recruits are the ones who fill up the slots with lower GPAs and test scores, leaving the remaining limited slots to be filled from applicants who will do the next thing the schools need – raise their ratings in USN and Forbes. I come from a middle class family that lives in an industrial city of about 25,000 people. Pingback: That College You Want To Attend? In this case, girls and others would have a better ahot at acceptance. So rather than get into a heated argument with my parents I walked the 8 miles from my house to School and back. Interesting comment, “Because he comes from a family that made good decisions, Boston College, and the Federal Government thought it was a good idea for him to pay $68,000 per year to attend their fine university. You get in on a points system. The problem we have ran into, is they always say ” Get good grades and school will be paid for with scholarships and grants.” Well that is the biggest joke I have ever heard! Thanks for listening to an AMERICAN MAN THAT HAD,,, HAS A GREAT LIFE ! The graduating students is now around 1280 (that has been taken from an annual population growth of a half percent per annum, which is the average in the United States). Don’t hold your breath on merit scholarships. White male here. Low-income students outnumber middle and upper income students and And my parents at the time where also considered middle class. So what action can be taken against these disgusting colleges? Best wishes…. However, I would need to add that if you look for scholarships for any minority class, or female, you will find them. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! He works 15 to 20 hours a week and goes to GA Tech full time as a high school senior. The Barbary Slave Trade was far worse than the black slave trade-the Europeans were castrated by the North Africans. Only legal to discriminate against were banned from reading i think what you want to go out.. 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